Tag line for FLUID web site

Knoop, Peter knoop at umich.edu
Wed Apr 18 19:36:59 EDT 2007


I feel obligated to point out -- for Sakai at least -- that it is not
just about higher education.  There is also K-12 (or K-13 for some of
you folks), not to mention the "collaboration" part of Collaboration and
Learning Environment (CLE) seeing use in non-governmental organizations
and the corporate world.

-peter
Sakai Project Coordinator
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Peter Knoop  University of Michigan                      knoop at umich.edu
             Sakai Foundation             734-647-8042 fax: 734-647-8045
             Dept. of Geological Sciences 734-647-7925 fax: 734-763-4690




> -----Original Message-----
> From: fluid-talk-bounces at fluidproject.org [mailto:fluid-talk-
> bounces at fluidproject.org] On Behalf Of Colin Clark
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:28 PM
> To: Andrew Petro
> Cc: fluid-talk at fluidproject.org
> Subject: Re: Tag line for FLUID web site
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions, it's great to hear others contribute to
> the
> FLUID community.
> 
> I certainly agree with your point that "all users" is awfully broad
and
> that our participating projects are each focusing on specific target
> audiences. One of the things Sakai, uPortal, and Kuali Student have in
> common is that they're all aimed at higher education users.
> 
> My intent in using the term "all users" was to emphasize inclusion,
but
> I agree with you that there are perhaps better ways to express this in
> our tagline.
> 
> Anyone else have suggestions they want to throw into the pot?
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Colin
> 
> Andrew Petro wrote:
> > Colin,
> >
> > "All users" reminds me of the "Every computer user" language in the
> > Ubuntu linux philosophy
> > <http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/philosophy>.  There it
> is
> > applied in terms of freedom, the freedom of all users, even users
> with
> > disabilities, to use the software.  The freedom of all users, even
> users
> > in foreign languages, to use the software.  The GPL bit with all
> users
> > free to modify their own software.
> >
> >
> > Of course, I am not against accessibility or internationalization or
> > freedom in software and user interfaces.  Nor is the Fluid project.
> > Addressing "the diverse needs represented within education,
including
> > needs related to ability, language, culture, discipline and
> > institutional conventions" is even called out on the Fuid project
> > frontpage <http://fluidproject.org/>.
> >
> > But FLUID seems to be less about "all users" and more about "all web
> > applications" and "all institutions".  "All web applications should
> be
> > able to cost-effectively adopt shared web UI components resulting in
> > shared user interface metaphors and quality of user experience
across
> > the institution."  "All institutions should be able to host web
> > applications that are not merely 'barely working', that are instead
> > possessed of a quality user experience composed of resuable
modules."
> >
> > Fluid is less about "all users" and more about the quality and
> usability
> > of the interfaces for whomever the rest of the project philosophy
> ends
> > up allowing to use the software.
> >
> > It's a matter of what parts to emphasize.  I think the problem Fluid
> is
> > trying to solve is that software *doesn't work* in the meaningful
> sense
> > of "work" -- working for real actual end users.  It doesn't work
> because
> > it's not usable.  Part of why it's not usable is unfortunate user
> > interface design.  Fluid seeks to bring better user experience
design
> to
> > higher education web applications, to reduce the amount of value
lost
> in
> > the last increment of distance between web application and end user.
> >
> > So I think the tagline should emphasize "usability" and "works" and
> > "users" but not the "all" bit.
> >
> > These aren't very good ideas but they dodge the "all users" trap:
> >
> > "Helping to build usable community source software."
> >
> > "User interface modules supporting web applications that work for
> their users."
> >
> > "Modular, flexible, and transformable user interfaces for web
> application success"
> >
> > "Usability across the web application ecosystem"
> >
> > "Building usable UI into web applications should be easy for
> developers."
> >
> > "UI modules with good usability both from the end user and from the
> > application developer perspectives."
> >
> > "Usable UI modules with good usability."
> >
> > "Usability for users and developers at once."
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >>
> >>>> "Helping to build community source software that works for users"
> >>>>
> >>
> >> How about another variation on this:
> >>
> >> "Designing community source software that works for all users"
> >>
> >> Just an idea. Other suggestions?
> >>
> >> Coiln
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Colin Clark
> >> Inclusive Software Architect/Programmer
> >> Adaptive Technology Resource Centre, University of Toronto
> >> 416-978-7728 / colin.clark at utoronto.ca
> >>
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